In a similar vein, some of us House of Strauss subscribers are here purely for Caitlyn Clark takes and it’s been DAYS since she flagrantly fouled Angel Reese . . .
Josh - incredible playoff performer -big game ability questioned, dissected despite huge games in playoffs and non-allen related collapses
Jalen - below avg playoff performer - awarded top 10 qb status based on below avg production with stud WR WR RB OL Defense (lol), avoids skepticism facing Purdy despite more accurately describing Hurts
Brock - above average playoff performer, only QB to lead late comeback and gwd - challenged, ridiculed, and scoffed at, accolades awarded to roster and coach
Lamar - shitty playoff performer, choke artist - treated like a near SB champion, lauded as top QB, James Harden playoff performer excused and defended in ways more applicable to Josh Allen
Funny who the media targets with a bullseye and who becomes a darling - little to do with collective on-field performance it seems.
I can only assume this poster is blind, because no one with eyes would say Hurts is a below average playoff performer. He could easily be 2-0 in Superbowls against Mahomes right now. I get wanting to lift up your guy Purdy, but this isn't the way. No one who watched the 2 Hurts SBs and the one Purdy SB would ever say they looked "equal", let alone Purdy being better.
I think the Purdy deal is ok in this specific circumstance. It’s not long, the cap rises each year, and I don’t think there is a clear way to reallocate that money from him to another player(s) that would make the Niners better. But this calculus would be different if the Niners didn’t have a decent shot of competing over the next 3 years. If their ceiling was lower, they’d be better off not doing this.
But no, the NFL media is better than the NBA media on the whole with these things. Your argument about the market being the market is analogous to defending buying a $1,000 bottle of wine vs a $50. Sure it costs what it costs, but, specific and narrow exceptions aside, if you are aiming for a pleasurable dinner you are better off with the $50 and reallocating the rest of the money elsewhere. You don’t in fact need the Chateau Lafite Rothschild.
The NBA overpaying players is one of the reasons the quality of the game sucks. The NFL media better understands that many more of the players than people assume are closer to JAGs.
It has been interesting to listen to the lamentations that the "second apron" of the NBA collective bargaining agreement means that these great teams (notably the Celtics, but some others) are probably going to have to dump veterans and certainly can't improve themselves.
The Philadelphia Eagles just won the Super Bowl with a loaded roster. In the offseason, they lost several solid starters, but not one of the first ten Eagles a fan would name (GM Howie Roseman said the jerseys in the stand wouldn't change). This was not regarded as a tragedy.
Maybe it's that NFL careers are short, so there will always be turnover, or that football culture is less player-focussed..
It was already the case that the NBA cap led to commentary that leaned a little to heavily into contracts and cap-friendliness (and don't get me started on pick swaps and protected draft picks). I wonder if the second apron is just going to make it too far where people don't even bother.
Another area the NBA media than NFL is smarter on is rule changes. Why do kick-offs keep changing? Where did the latest iteration even come from? Who was asking for that? There would be dozens of think pieces on my timeline for NBA; the NFL stuff just appears and media goes along with it.
And who cares about the tush push? (I know Ethan does). One team uses it once a game. Any team could do it if they wanted. The main reason it gets traction is because of the clever Seinfeld-ian use of yiddish.
Are there more new money/tech owners in the NBA than NFL? In the NFL, seems like if you are tight with Jerr-uh (or his team plays the loser of the change 2xs a year), you can get a rule change
I disagree that the NBA covers this better. Now that we are moving towards, in all practice, a hard cap era in the NBA, it's pretty basic analysis to just say that people are worth the max just because. And I'd argue that a good QB is much more irreplaceable than any non top-15 NBA player.
In a similar vein, some of us House of Strauss subscribers are here purely for Caitlyn Clark takes and it’s been DAYS since she flagrantly fouled Angel Reese . . .
Active QB playoff records
Mahomes 17-4
Flacco 10-6
Josh 7-6
Burrow 5-2
Goff 5-5
Stafford 5-5
Purdy 4-2
Lamar 3-5 ***
Baker 2-3
Dak 2-5
Josh Allen 13 games, 7-6, 25 tds, 4 int, 3359 yds, 0 4q cb, 0 gwd
Jalen Hurts 9 games, 6-3, 10 tds, 1813 yds, 3 int, 0 4q cb, 0 gwd
Brock Purdy 6 games, 4-2, 6 tds, 1 int, 1343 yds, 1 4q cb, 3 gwd (injured early one game, loss)
Lamar Jackson 8 games, 3-5, 10 tds, 7 int, 1753 yds, 0 4q cb, 0 gwd
Josh - incredible playoff performer -big game ability questioned, dissected despite huge games in playoffs and non-allen related collapses
Jalen - below avg playoff performer - awarded top 10 qb status based on below avg production with stud WR WR RB OL Defense (lol), avoids skepticism facing Purdy despite more accurately describing Hurts
Brock - above average playoff performer, only QB to lead late comeback and gwd - challenged, ridiculed, and scoffed at, accolades awarded to roster and coach
Lamar - shitty playoff performer, choke artist - treated like a near SB champion, lauded as top QB, James Harden playoff performer excused and defended in ways more applicable to Josh Allen
Funny who the media targets with a bullseye and who becomes a darling - little to do with collective on-field performance it seems.
I can only assume this poster is blind, because no one with eyes would say Hurts is a below average playoff performer. He could easily be 2-0 in Superbowls against Mahomes right now. I get wanting to lift up your guy Purdy, but this isn't the way. No one who watched the 2 Hurts SBs and the one Purdy SB would ever say they looked "equal", let alone Purdy being better.
The Proof is in the Purding
I think the Purdy deal is ok in this specific circumstance. It’s not long, the cap rises each year, and I don’t think there is a clear way to reallocate that money from him to another player(s) that would make the Niners better. But this calculus would be different if the Niners didn’t have a decent shot of competing over the next 3 years. If their ceiling was lower, they’d be better off not doing this.
But no, the NFL media is better than the NBA media on the whole with these things. Your argument about the market being the market is analogous to defending buying a $1,000 bottle of wine vs a $50. Sure it costs what it costs, but, specific and narrow exceptions aside, if you are aiming for a pleasurable dinner you are better off with the $50 and reallocating the rest of the money elsewhere. You don’t in fact need the Chateau Lafite Rothschild.
The NBA overpaying players is one of the reasons the quality of the game sucks. The NFL media better understands that many more of the players than people assume are closer to JAGs.
It has been interesting to listen to the lamentations that the "second apron" of the NBA collective bargaining agreement means that these great teams (notably the Celtics, but some others) are probably going to have to dump veterans and certainly can't improve themselves.
The Philadelphia Eagles just won the Super Bowl with a loaded roster. In the offseason, they lost several solid starters, but not one of the first ten Eagles a fan would name (GM Howie Roseman said the jerseys in the stand wouldn't change). This was not regarded as a tragedy.
Maybe it's that NFL careers are short, so there will always be turnover, or that football culture is less player-focussed..
It was already the case that the NBA cap led to commentary that leaned a little to heavily into contracts and cap-friendliness (and don't get me started on pick swaps and protected draft picks). I wonder if the second apron is just going to make it too far where people don't even bother.
Another area the NBA media than NFL is smarter on is rule changes. Why do kick-offs keep changing? Where did the latest iteration even come from? Who was asking for that? There would be dozens of think pieces on my timeline for NBA; the NFL stuff just appears and media goes along with it.
And who cares about the tush push? (I know Ethan does). One team uses it once a game. Any team could do it if they wanted. The main reason it gets traction is because of the clever Seinfeld-ian use of yiddish.
Are there more new money/tech owners in the NBA than NFL? In the NFL, seems like if you are tight with Jerr-uh (or his team plays the loser of the change 2xs a year), you can get a rule change
I disagree that the NBA covers this better. Now that we are moving towards, in all practice, a hard cap era in the NBA, it's pretty basic analysis to just say that people are worth the max just because. And I'd argue that a good QB is much more irreplaceable than any non top-15 NBA player.