Grant is an atrocious, self-absorbed shitbag of a man-child who craves the spotlight and has less maturity than the 25 year olds he’s trying to pester in the locker room. Whatever kicks him out of the game is a positive.
I’m sympathetic to banning cameras from locker rooms. In olden times video would go to the newsroom only, and there were only camera cameras. Now you have people, each armed with a smart phone crawling all over the place, and the clips get released in the forever world via countless platforms.
Outside of that, a plague on both these houses. The players are saaaawft. This is part of their job, etc… but the media burned so much credibility with their “journalistic” conduct…to use a hypothetical example in a different sport… how would certain people who may take the media’s side here react if it was a reporter standing over a half naked Clark asking her to renounce her fans 20 minutes after a tough loss/great win.
I have some first-hand familiarity with media around professional soccer. There’s a contrast between how… agressive… the press is in South America and Europe, versus in the United States. I will concede that how small-beans domestic soccer is in America surely plays a part in this. However, I think an another big, big part of it is locker room access.
For example, a lot of players from South America and Europe that come over to play professionally in the States, whether MLS or USL, are immediately shocked that the team is going to let the vipers referred to as “reporters” into the locker room. But once they get a sense for how the American press generally treats them, that shock goes away.
I’ve also watched English reporters who receive precious little access compared to Americans — reporters from different publications! — discuss their own self-agreed embargoes about which days they’re going to parcel out certain stories gleaned from interviews they all attended. This, in turn, shocked me. Picture Tim Kawakami reminding Mr. Strauss to check with the Chronicle’s beat writers about which days they’re all publishing on certain topics related tot the Warriors.
I hope leagues recognize what Mr. Strauss has; that athletes don’t know what is interesting about themselves and their sports, and maintain access. And, if NFL players think Cohn is a particularly ugly strain of media member, wait until the day no one is ever standing in the same room with them unless separated by a table on risers, or on opposite sides of a steel-tubing barracade. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
This is up to the NFL to find a better situation that works better for both parties. But I have ZERO sympathy for Grant here. When your brand is "look at me!" journalism, you're going to reap what you sow and get more blowback from players than your otherwise average, respectable journalist.
I don’t have a issue with players like deebo Samuel “next question”-ing grant but implying stuff abt him as nasty as what juice did kinda crosses a line of decency doesn’t it ?
Absolutely but we're talking about 20-something man-children... they aren't reacting in these situations the same way well-adjusted, non-coddled adults would. Again, Juice is wrong but Grant invites this based on how he operates. Heck, Grant probably likes the attention.
Had no idea who Grant was until the earlier podcast. Implore anyone on the fence to watch the oldest video on his YouTube channel. The guy has always sucked.
If you are going to be that rude (and shamelessly exploit nepotism) you better be right ALL the f!cking time. Which he obviously is not.
On top of that, his dad is incredibly lame for writing that article. As (geriatric) father and (adult) son, do they often frequent Asian massage parlors, alternating turns on the table while the other dispassionately critiques thrust angle and rhythm?
The real issue - Grant has never been hit in the face by anything other than a cock. Actually explains his incessant hyper-vigilance in said locker room environment.
He’s a 33 year old vet. I had a lot more sympathy for kinlaw who was a rlly young man tryna establish himself. And yea I agree that grant likes the attention to some level which is why Kyle shouldn’t do it lol. He’s only opening himself up to more scrutiny.
Juszczyk was out of line and should retract / apologize, unless he has specific incidents he wants to relate.
I agree Grant does himself no favors, and his loud opinion of Juice's team value no doubt contributed, but Juszczyk is not a 23 yr old rookie-- rather, he's an experienced team leader and should know better.
I think this is going to be a tactical error for the union. Reporters in the locker room ironically makes some stuff less likely to come out — like stuff that's under a newsworthy bar like, man, our new guard seems to really like to use the f-slur. Or this one player is always challenging teammates to very large bets. Now that it's a no-go zone, and there are still sources in there like agents, trainers, and managers, there will be demand for scoops from the locker room. And the scoops will reveal truths this site is based on — the stuff that Commanders media guy got fired for — that these collections of alphas aren't really nice guys, and probably don't agree with your coastal politics.
Honest question, I simply don't know-- do players not get enough time to shower / dress before the media comes in? Would an extra 10 min delay help in some way?
Media may be the most unsympathetic group of people in society but agree they still deserve access. The typical “scrum” is boilerplate crap, the good stuff (no diddy) comes from locker rooms. Hate to support such insufferable people but a couple of them can still put together insightful, thought provoking work.
NFL Players can complain all they want about reporters locker room access, but that is not going to change unless the NFL Players Union amends the new CBA (unlikely), or they negotiate it out in the next CBA (and Ethan points to potential unintended consequences with that).
As for Grant Cohn...the longer and longer I have subscribed to HoS, the more and more I realize that there is very much a sub-group of Ethan's subscribers that talk all things "Bay Area". Not hating on it, but almost curious to read a story on HoS how this sub-group has influenced Ethan's writing, or how it has added to this newsletter, or even potentially alienated others from it. LOL
Grant is an atrocious, self-absorbed shitbag of a man-child who craves the spotlight and has less maturity than the 25 year olds he’s trying to pester in the locker room. Whatever kicks him out of the game is a positive.
I’m sympathetic to banning cameras from locker rooms. In olden times video would go to the newsroom only, and there were only camera cameras. Now you have people, each armed with a smart phone crawling all over the place, and the clips get released in the forever world via countless platforms.
Outside of that, a plague on both these houses. The players are saaaawft. This is part of their job, etc… but the media burned so much credibility with their “journalistic” conduct…to use a hypothetical example in a different sport… how would certain people who may take the media’s side here react if it was a reporter standing over a half naked Clark asking her to renounce her fans 20 minutes after a tough loss/great win.
I have some first-hand familiarity with media around professional soccer. There’s a contrast between how… agressive… the press is in South America and Europe, versus in the United States. I will concede that how small-beans domestic soccer is in America surely plays a part in this. However, I think an another big, big part of it is locker room access.
For example, a lot of players from South America and Europe that come over to play professionally in the States, whether MLS or USL, are immediately shocked that the team is going to let the vipers referred to as “reporters” into the locker room. But once they get a sense for how the American press generally treats them, that shock goes away.
I’ve also watched English reporters who receive precious little access compared to Americans — reporters from different publications! — discuss their own self-agreed embargoes about which days they’re going to parcel out certain stories gleaned from interviews they all attended. This, in turn, shocked me. Picture Tim Kawakami reminding Mr. Strauss to check with the Chronicle’s beat writers about which days they’re all publishing on certain topics related tot the Warriors.
I hope leagues recognize what Mr. Strauss has; that athletes don’t know what is interesting about themselves and their sports, and maintain access. And, if NFL players think Cohn is a particularly ugly strain of media member, wait until the day no one is ever standing in the same room with them unless separated by a table on risers, or on opposite sides of a steel-tubing barracade. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
This is up to the NFL to find a better situation that works better for both parties. But I have ZERO sympathy for Grant here. When your brand is "look at me!" journalism, you're going to reap what you sow and get more blowback from players than your otherwise average, respectable journalist.
I don’t have a issue with players like deebo Samuel “next question”-ing grant but implying stuff abt him as nasty as what juice did kinda crosses a line of decency doesn’t it ?
Absolutely but we're talking about 20-something man-children... they aren't reacting in these situations the same way well-adjusted, non-coddled adults would. Again, Juice is wrong but Grant invites this based on how he operates. Heck, Grant probably likes the attention.
Had no idea who Grant was until the earlier podcast. Implore anyone on the fence to watch the oldest video on his YouTube channel. The guy has always sucked.
If you are going to be that rude (and shamelessly exploit nepotism) you better be right ALL the f!cking time. Which he obviously is not.
On top of that, his dad is incredibly lame for writing that article. As (geriatric) father and (adult) son, do they often frequent Asian massage parlors, alternating turns on the table while the other dispassionately critiques thrust angle and rhythm?
The real issue - Grant has never been hit in the face by anything other than a cock. Actually explains his incessant hyper-vigilance in said locker room environment.
He’s a 33 year old vet. I had a lot more sympathy for kinlaw who was a rlly young man tryna establish himself. And yea I agree that grant likes the attention to some level which is why Kyle shouldn’t do it lol. He’s only opening himself up to more scrutiny.
Juszczyk was out of line and should retract / apologize, unless he has specific incidents he wants to relate.
I agree Grant does himself no favors, and his loud opinion of Juice's team value no doubt contributed, but Juszczyk is not a 23 yr old rookie-- rather, he's an experienced team leader and should know better.
I think this is going to be a tactical error for the union. Reporters in the locker room ironically makes some stuff less likely to come out — like stuff that's under a newsworthy bar like, man, our new guard seems to really like to use the f-slur. Or this one player is always challenging teammates to very large bets. Now that it's a no-go zone, and there are still sources in there like agents, trainers, and managers, there will be demand for scoops from the locker room. And the scoops will reveal truths this site is based on — the stuff that Commanders media guy got fired for — that these collections of alphas aren't really nice guys, and probably don't agree with your coastal politics.
Honest question, I simply don't know-- do players not get enough time to shower / dress before the media comes in? Would an extra 10 min delay help in some way?
Great post, any thoughts on WNBA players union also going after a reporter? Wonder if this Players vs Media thing is part of a trend.
Media may be the most unsympathetic group of people in society but agree they still deserve access. The typical “scrum” is boilerplate crap, the good stuff (no diddy) comes from locker rooms. Hate to support such insufferable people but a couple of them can still put together insightful, thought provoking work.
NFL Players can complain all they want about reporters locker room access, but that is not going to change unless the NFL Players Union amends the new CBA (unlikely), or they negotiate it out in the next CBA (and Ethan points to potential unintended consequences with that).
As for Grant Cohn...the longer and longer I have subscribed to HoS, the more and more I realize that there is very much a sub-group of Ethan's subscribers that talk all things "Bay Area". Not hating on it, but almost curious to read a story on HoS how this sub-group has influenced Ethan's writing, or how it has added to this newsletter, or even potentially alienated others from it. LOL
“Can we talk about your dropped pass on 4th down ?”
“Bro you hitting on me?”