I think the issue is that the dorks rank Hebert somewhere in the group below Mahomes, Allen and whatever other QB is having an MVP season any given year. And it’s really hard to get worked up over whether he is the 5th or 9th best QB.
Solak had Herbert ahead of Stafford on his MVP list like a week ago. Just a totally unserious position for anyone who has extensively watched both play this year. Herbert has shown grit and toughness, but come on.
I’ve long been a Herbert defender but I think yesterday will be a turning point in how he’s covered. At least until he gets over the hump.
The reason everyone gets excited about Herbert is bc he IS exciting - and the league thrives when players with his ability do well. He was 5-0 in primetime this season, he was box office, and incredibly gritty.
You're not wrong when you say he needs to throw the playbook out and play with a little more feel - there's proof of concept with his comeback Rose Bowl win his senior year, against the Raiders in that insane 4th quarter comeback in 2021, against the Broncos (this year and last), and other games in his career. The problem is that when he's playing under OCs that put the clamps on his game he can't throw away the playbook every game.
You mentioned Daniel Jones in the pod - he lit it up with Shane Steichen for half a season. Guess who Herbert's OC was his rookie year when he shattered records? Yeah.
I know you love yourself some purdy Purdy, but you don't think Herbert would be setting the league on fire in a Shanahan offense instead of Joe Lombardi's dink and dunk scheme or Greg Roman's "medieval" run concept game? Do the football nerd thought experiment of putting Purdy on the Chargers this year. How did Purdy play without Trent Williams? Think he'd get the niners to 11 wins with his 5th and 6th string tackles like Herbert did?
Anyway, it doesn't matter now. The Chargers are out the Niners are moving on (good job you!) Herbert wasn't great last night and neither were the Chargers on offense or special teams. Herbert haters can talk all the sh*t they want, but they know he's got the goods. Tua is on his way to being a journeyman back up and you still have lunatic Dolphin fans SWEAR Tua is better than Herbert.
(And Ethan, just so you know, this is how much of a fan I am of HOS - you love throwing shade on LeBron and Herbert but I just can't quit you xoxo)
I think the issue is that the dorks rank Hebert somewhere in the group below Mahomes, Allen and whatever other QB is having an MVP season any given year. And it’s really hard to get worked up over whether he is the 5th or 9th best QB.
Like, who cares enough to argue Herbert v Dak?
Solak had Herbert ahead of Stafford on his MVP list like a week ago. Just a totally unserious position for anyone who has extensively watched both play this year. Herbert has shown grit and toughness, but come on.
I’ve long been a Herbert defender but I think yesterday will be a turning point in how he’s covered. At least until he gets over the hump.
The reason everyone gets excited about Herbert is bc he IS exciting - and the league thrives when players with his ability do well. He was 5-0 in primetime this season, he was box office, and incredibly gritty.
You're not wrong when you say he needs to throw the playbook out and play with a little more feel - there's proof of concept with his comeback Rose Bowl win his senior year, against the Raiders in that insane 4th quarter comeback in 2021, against the Broncos (this year and last), and other games in his career. The problem is that when he's playing under OCs that put the clamps on his game he can't throw away the playbook every game.
You mentioned Daniel Jones in the pod - he lit it up with Shane Steichen for half a season. Guess who Herbert's OC was his rookie year when he shattered records? Yeah.
I know you love yourself some purdy Purdy, but you don't think Herbert would be setting the league on fire in a Shanahan offense instead of Joe Lombardi's dink and dunk scheme or Greg Roman's "medieval" run concept game? Do the football nerd thought experiment of putting Purdy on the Chargers this year. How did Purdy play without Trent Williams? Think he'd get the niners to 11 wins with his 5th and 6th string tackles like Herbert did?
Anyway, it doesn't matter now. The Chargers are out the Niners are moving on (good job you!) Herbert wasn't great last night and neither were the Chargers on offense or special teams. Herbert haters can talk all the sh*t they want, but they know he's got the goods. Tua is on his way to being a journeyman back up and you still have lunatic Dolphin fans SWEAR Tua is better than Herbert.
(And Ethan, just so you know, this is how much of a fan I am of HOS - you love throwing shade on LeBron and Herbert but I just can't quit you xoxo)